Does Gon Only Need to Be Hit With Hatsu Again
kulugo
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who practice you guys think would win?
Immature Gon vs Uvogin
Transformed Gon vs Uvogin
Janken vs Big Blindside
kkck
Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
At the moment in a fight between normal current gon and uvogin I would recall gon would lose in literally all regards including rock vs big blindside. Uvogin was a high level nen user with advanced nen and huge nen volumes. Gon has manifestly mid level volumes of nen thanks to bisk however his actual control over it is as far as we can tell apprentice. Uvogin's own ko should past all intents and purposes be much stronger and faster to charge because of this.
Transformed gon in an entirely different deal. Huge amounts of nen, relatively fast charging, a body in its physical max and prime.... I call back he would have an like shooting fish in a barrel victory against uvo taking in consideration his victory against pitou was somewhat easy. They would have a purely concrete fight and this would seem to exist aspects in which gon would be superior in that state.
baboysai
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I would say post-GI Gon vs. Uvo, Gon would not stand a take a chance.
Then, transformed Gon would be pretty much put him on the same basis every bit Uvo, therefore, l-50. It would just accept to be a matter of who uses his brains more than. Given their personalities though, Gon and Uvo share the aforementioned qualities when information technology comes to boxing strategies, I approximate. Then I would really non take whatever clue as to who could win this fight.
Uvo is somewhat hampered by the fact that he doesn't really have a hatsu. I wonder if jajanken could be used finer against Uvo though, because its long accuse up time.
I think Uvo isn't put in a good light because of his fight confronting Kurapica which, imo, was a bit of an ass-pull. How Kurapica was able to compete with Uvo in terms of reflexes, move and and then on is beyond me - remember Gon barely beingness able to react to Bomber coming at him.
Overall though i'd prob. pick Gon. He'south the talented one and since BBI is just a normal charged up dial, Gon could replicate information technology too with Gyo. So long equally he's careful not to open himself up to attack charging up janken he should be fine.
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not-enlightenment Gon would get thoroughly destroyed.
daman246
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lol Transform Gon volition Crush him.
The Guy literally Destroyed Pitou who is Stronger than Both Hisoka and Illumi.
Pitou made Gon,Kite,Killua shit their pants when they felt his Aura.
Is you lot were to put Pitou against kurapika. Kurapika wouldnt even dare to move against him.
Transformed Gon is in the same class as Netero.
And we know that Netero will literally Shell all the spiders besides the Captain together.
KingOfNight
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^Pitou is not Uvo.
There is no ane to say Pitou is stronger than Illumi and Hisoka (though personally, I believe she is...SHE...SHE.....she).
Kurapika doesn't have annihilation to do with this.
Netero can't have out the Spiders combined.
Phantron
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Netero can take out several hundred guys of the Spider tier because there'due south clearly no i in the Spider tier that is remotely every bit fast as him. He'd basically hit a guy and possibly kill him and then only retreat and and so echo this equally many times as he needs, just every bit how he defeated all the fodder Ants even though it's implied he tin't actually fight all the Ants at one time (would be way too tiring to fight so many Aura capable opponents at once). Just because Netero is honorable doesn't mean he doesn't know how to use strategy, and besides there's no reason for him to stand his ground fighting thirteen guys at the same time. The only style you lot can possibly bargain with that is if you somehow trapped Netero so he can't retreat but good luck with that.
Transformed Gon is probably equally potent every bit Netero is during his prime. He is so fast that non even Pitou tin can react to his normal speed. Keep in mind that Netero's speed is nada special except for the moment he uses his Hatsu, and Pitou can still barely run into him during his Hatsu as well but Pitou accept no thought where Gon went when he tried to attack him, so Gon is possibly faster than even Netero's hatsu and he'due south certainly faster when both are in normal state, not to mention Netero only gets boost to his mitt speed, not movement or anything else. His impairment is also off the scale, since a single kicking has Pitou coughing upward blood. This puts his impairment at more than 10000 AP range (10K AP is one reasonably stiff punch from Yupi, and no way Yupi tin do that much damage to Pitou in ane hitting) which is an amount no human even has a chance to possibly withstand head on. When you're faster and stronger than any man being there'due south no way you can maybe lose. If he fought Ubogin, it'd literally be over the moment Gon landed a single punch as his punch can exercise seriously damage to Pitou, who shrugged off Netero's Hatsu quite effortlessly.
Demonspeed
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神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Uvo would win of course but I wonder if Rock is not stronger than BBI. Saying that Transformed Gon is in Netero league is underestimating him. Pitou said he has the level of Meruem and Netero is non in Meruem'southward league, fifty-fifty his strongest attack didn't really affect him. It means Gon is at least stronger than him and personally I think he was stronger. Before the Rose explosion, Meruem was just a HtH fighter, his power was not actually useful in fighting. He could have damaged Gon but I don't run across how he could have won this, transformed Gon is physically stronger than Meruem considering he is an Enhancer and likewise because his kicking made Pitou bleed, even Meruem tail whip(with killing intent) didn't hurt her like that. With Jajanken combination he could have been way more dangerous likewise. I don't think super Gon was equal to Netero either, it's said he used all his potential and Gon is a genius amid geniuses only information technology's debatable.
The 3 major factors in a Nen battle are:
1-Your aura book.
two-The quality of your Hatsu( with weather etc).
3-Your aura control( which is refined with basic training).
Aura volume is basically your strength and Netero is not in the in the aforementioned league as the RG, Colt confirmed this. Just he tin compete Pitou because his Hatsu is mode better, a fight against Pitou would be similar to his fight against Meruem except Pitou is non equally durable, physically potent and fast every bit Meruem, she can also heal herself, Meruem can't do that and with Physician Blythe she won't be slapped like Meruem. In a fight between those 2, Pitou is more likely to win, she can accuse forward like Meruem and in case she is hurt she could go along her distance and heal herself, and she is more than capable to take a Zero because she survived Gon'south Rock( who is way stronger than Netero, that Rock attack was the strongest attack used by an human so far, and she can fight even when killed).
A fight with Pouf would be fifty-fifty more than complicated because of Beelzebub and his scales. And I don't see Netero win against Yupi, seriously.
I think Netero couldn't crush the RG simply he is more probable to win Pitou amid those 3( he would lose though), if Meruem had a better Hatsu their fight would accept been even more one-sided.
kkck
Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
I don't think rock could hold a candle to BBI for a number of reasons. Both techniques are essentially the same thing, they are only fists charged with nen. As such the comparing is pretty straight forrard. Each punch tin can take only as much strength as the entire strength of their ken to brainstorm with. I don't retrieve there is anything even vaguely reasonable about the possibility of gon being even somewhat close in this regard to uvo. Uvo was a high level nen user with huge amounts of feel, there is no way gon is fifty-fifty close to him. So there is physical strength which is of import to enhancers. Uvo is a full grown human being with a powerful body. Every bit skillful as gon might be I don't remember he comes shut to uvo in this department. Then there would be that hatsu heave we know. Gon gets a power boost which makes his rock stronger than his entire ken due to how hatsu mostly work. The issue here is that at that place is no reason for uvo to non accept something like this himself. More than so, uvo was implied in the manga to be quite invested in his big bang impact and taking in consideration the years of feel he has with information technology and his overall better control of nen I would recollect uvi should accept at least a stronger boost than gon does. There is no scenario in which child gon's rock holds a candle to the big blindside bear upon.
Phantron
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I said transformed Gon is in the aforementioned league as Netero in his prime, with the supposition that Netero is withal simply at 50% of his prime. If you double Netero's attack power he could definitely put on some threat against Meryem.
Meryem has no Hatsu considering he has no need for them. He about certainly tin can invent 1 any time he felt like like Pitou did. He doesn't practise that because his part in life is to rule not to fight. Fighting is but a form of amusement like Gungi, and he's probably entertained less past fighting (because he's way too potent) than Gungi. I guess it'south possible if someone push him hard enough he'd actually need to develop and use Hatsus but we'll never know.
At any charge per unit if you're talking about Transformed Gon with a fourth dimension limit like the manga, Meryem would win easily because he's not going to die in the short time Gon tin stay in that kind of state. If Gon has no time limit, information technology'd appear Trasnformed Gon does have higher damage output than Meryem simply because Meryem has no Hatsus. But go on in mind Pitou and Pufu are both extremely protective of Meryem and are likely to overestimate a threat's impairment to Meryem. Pitou versus Transformed Gon would've been a double KO if Killua didn't bear witness up on time (I remember information technology's not reasonable to expect someone without their head can however attack you lot). I don't think Pitou can do the aforementioned to Meryem (ignoring the fact that he would never even fight back). Every bit powerful equally Transformed Gon was, he's nonetheless basically even agaisnt a Regal Guard in a 1on1 fight to the death.
Netero's knockback outcome is a fleck absurd because the only way you lot can knockback a person standing on the ground any significant distance is if you're stronger than the opponent and at that place'southward no way this is true. The reason he can knock Pitou back was beacuse Pitou was in the air and has cypher to absorb the touch on, so then it but becomes a question whether Netero tin knock a human being level weight object a long distance, and obviously that's petty. Merely as long every bit Pitou or whatsoever RG level opponent is standing on the ground you'd take to overcome their physical strength to knock them dorsum. I can only surmise that Meryem allowed him to get knocked as part of his handicap because the fight would literally exist over in one frame if this isn't true. To assail Netero all y'all'd practice is slowly walk upwards to where he is and whenever he attacks, yous just have it and hit back with an surface area effect assault in the general direction. If you do become close enough but grapple him and information technology's over. Remember Netero'due south footspeed is not faster than that of Imperial Guard. It's only his hand speed is faster. Of course this strategy only works considering RGs can shrug off Netero'south attacks easily (they probably have some damage but clearly nothing meaning). Now would Pitou employ this strategy? That'southward impossible to tell only in general the RGs have been shown to have extremely adept tactics.
For Ubogin, Rock should be stronger than Big Bang only because Rock has a telltale sign and fourth dimension to charge. Merely this overlooks the fact that Ubogin is significantly physically stronger to begin with. Again people tend to forget that Gon really isn't big on training, while Ubogin seems to spend all his time working on how to make himself stronger. Gon has a stronger (and riskier) Hatsu, just Ubogin has spent mode more time training himself physically. Not counting the plot-induced suddenly influx of power, I'd say Ubogin'southward cumulative power is nonetheless higher just because Gon actually does very little training of whatever kind.
kkck
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神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
I still don't think stone has a fixed fourth dimension to charge. Why should we assume the time it takes for charging is a self imposed status rather than the result of gon's massive inexperience when it comes to nen?The telltale sign perhaps does have an outcome.
As for gon not being big on training, I besides don't think that is true. Just look at his scissor between the greed island arc and the time he used it against the chimera ants, its quite a divergence. I don't call up gon neglects his grooming when he is alone although it is true that he fares better when he has more guidance.
Phantron
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It however takes time for him to accuse Rock fifty-fifty when he's transformed when his power is clearly off the scale relative to any human character. He decided to have a charge time because he's inexperienced anyway then he might too make that a brake so it's got to be stronger than a move that doesn't take a charge time (Big Bang seems to come up out pretty much instantly). However people need to terminate thinking 'more restriction = better'. If Gon isn't the master character he's likely to take died while charigng upwardly a Rock because he's quite vulnerable during this stage, so just considering his move is more powerful doesn't mean it's better. Yes I know that doesn't work in the fight confronting Knuckles when he did a Paper and a Rock back to back simply I presume that's only his main character bailout since in that particular sequence he pretty much completely ignored all his restrictions (no warning, no charge fourth dimension) and yet delivered the same amount of power.
Gon is shown to exist easily distracted by other stuff. Ubogin, on the other hand, is said to be a man whose goal in life is to be able to punch every bit hard equally a missile. He's clearly very dedicated to that goal and I'd imagine he spends all his time honing his force. If aura is all of a sudden removed from the world of HXH, Ubogin could hands exist top 5 in terms of physical strength. Not that he'd be top v overall in fight prowess, simply there's really no reason to believe even someone like Netero could beat him in say an arm wrestling match if both agreed to not employ aura. Now aura does tend to trump the physical, merely Ubogin does take a rather big lead in grooming. Gon gets your standard 'but need 3 days to railroad train what other needs 3 years' deal like most Shonen heroes, but I don't think yous can utilize that if you've to compare the two objectively. Otherwise yous might every bit well say Gon wins considering he's the main character.
rock is a hatsu bbi is a ko. hatsu wins everytime
KingOfNight
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No offense to the people who thinks similar that, only the concept of Gon'southward Rock being stronger than BBI is laughable at best. Uvogin's ordinary punches are more deadlier than all of Gon's three Hatsu. Uvogin is a tremendously more powerful version of Gon, with more experience and smarts to kick.
No offense but its the thruth... Call up when bisky was training gon in greed island? She was using ko agaisnt him and he learned to defend it by ken and ryu. That ko was probably close to the big bang impact. Why ? Uvogin used bbi confronting kurapika and just broke his arm... Then uvogin said that an enhancer using ken could accept no harm from bbi but all other nen users would accept damage.
Now gon's stone can requite damage to any nen user disregarding type equally it is a hatsu and non a elementary basic technique similar uvogin'south
Run across?
KingOfNight
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Outset off, permit's clear something up. Any release of your Aura is considered Hatsu. Even something as uncomplicated every bit Palm using her Aureola on a cup of teas is considered Hatsu as Gon told her to put information technology off. Rock and BBI are admittedly identical. BBI is but used by a stronger Nen user. Too, Uvogin never said anything like that. He said it'due south impossible for anyone aside from Enhancers to cake fifty-fifty his simplest attacks. He never said Enhancers tin block his BBI. Kurapika in ET uses 100% Enhancement which is why he didn't become obliterated. Comparing Bisky's Ko to Uvogin's Ko is similar comparing a lizard to a dragon.
Look, I mean no criminal offense at all, simply you literally don't know anything about this serial. You get besides many mixed upwards ideas. Are yous knew to HxH ?
Well to say that compare bisky to uvogin is to compare a lizard to a dragon the new around here should be you... Bisky fifty years of nen user uvogin 10 years at much...
I would say uvogin is an ant compared to an elephant if put against bisky.
Overall the ryodan aren't that strong and uvo is probably the weakest as it's beingness said several times that he and nobunaga could exist easily replaced as their abilities are just average and hands found...
And gon'southward rock is a hatsu and uvogin bbi is non. Become find the hunter guide if in doub...
And hatsu is one of the iv principles. Hatsu is not any aura set on... Or aureola release... Say that to the poor zushi who couldn't handle hatsu...
KingOfNight
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See ? You're definitely knew here. You literally have no idea what y'all're proverb.
Starting time off, Bisky begun training when she was 17 so she has a 40 years experience as a Nen user. Historic period doesn't matter for shit. Gon is 12-thirteen, but his Ko is several times stronger than...let's say Genthru's Ko. Why ? Because he's an Enhancer.
You inverse the subject field considering you lot knew you were wrong and now talk about the Ryodan.
You should look it up. Gon's Rock is a Ko. Stop proverb things randomly, delight god, stop.
Look hither, just her releasing her Aura on a cup is considered Hatsu. I told yous, you accept no idea on this manga at all. And don't even dare tell me it's a mistranslation.
You proved zip... And so ren is any release of aura? Zetsu is any withrawal of aureola? Hatsu is any release of aureola? Gyo is any concentration of aura? ken is whatsoever aggregating of aura? Wrong...
Your link only proves that palm was using hatsu... The same hatsu gon was tautgh by wing. And the aforementioned hatsu zushi couldn't do... Anything else than that? Nope... Even gon agrees with me. He could say hey end releasing your aura just he says hey end your hatsu.
That point is for me
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See... Different color and shape than a ko
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Besides uvogin hit with his 100% bbi at kurapika and he just broke an arm... Gon hit knuckle using ken and knuckle was defeated and slept for several hours....
Knuckle is mode stronger than kurapika and he is using ken... Kurapika was non using ken... Any smart person can run across the difference in power
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KingOfNight
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Wing releasing his Aureola on the wall was also said to be a Hatsu. The fact that Gon said stop your Hatsu shows that Hatsu is any release of Aura. There is likewise a dissimilar color here, your indicate ? Dude, colors don't matter for shit. Information technology's just anime effects. I know that Rock is a Hatsu. Hatsu is any release of Aura meant to have a sure function. And again, you don't know this manga for shit. When Gon asked Fly on how to create a Hatsu, he directed him to "show everything at once." Which is to focus all his Aura in his fist, thus, creating Rock. Beige later confirmed that this act is chosen "Ko." For god sake, volition you have me explain the whole manga for you ?
Link me a page proverb that Knuckle is stronger than Kurapika. Any smart person tin can meet that Kurapika uses 100% Enhancement. Only Read here and learn nigh this manga.
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